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		<title>By: Hopelessly Stuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hopelessly Stuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 18:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of all, have a read of this post.  Addiction &#8211; The First Step &#124; Action Podcast where someone forced herself to face the fact she was an addict of WoW (for several years!) and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Pia &#124; Taunaki</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pia &#124; Taunaki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 06:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Sam,

I believe it depends on personality if you need to quit an addiction all together or can nipple it so to speak

I know that for my smoking I needed to cut it hard, completely and utterly. It simply took way too much energy for me to argue with myself over and over if it now was time to get that first or 2nd cigarette of the day that I had allowed myself. It took way too much energy and time and struggle to stop myself from telling myself: well, you can get another one, it doesn&#039;t matter anyway.

So I think, if you&#039;re really good at keeping promises for yourself, then you can quit partially and at a level that&#039;s healthy for you. But if you&#039;re not good at keeping promises for yourself, or at least obey yourself without argument, then it&#039;s no go and you should quit completely.

I have friends who can manage the one-two smokes a day without any problems what so ever. If I try that, I just slowly start to smoke more and more as I break one promise to myself after another. I&#039;m not good at keeping them when it&#039;s only myself it relies on.

Also, I&#039;m the type who&#039;ll eat the entire candy-bag once it&#039;s opened in a very short time. I&#039;m not good at saving pleasures for later. Other people are the opposite and I think they can easier manage to quit an addiction partially.

There&#039;s a danger with partial quitting. That you in essence fool yourself. &quot;Sure, I can&#039;t be addicted when I only play one hour a day, can I?&quot; Typical argument. Fact is that yes, you can be addicted even if you only play 5 min a day. It all comes down to why you play and how you do it. My ex, who is an alcoholic, didn&#039;t drink every day, but once in a while. According to himself he weren&#039;t addicted any longer. Bullshit I say, because he still drank for all the same reasons and had all the same behaviours around it. He was merely fooling himself because he wasn&#039;t ready to face reality and take responsibility for his own life and actions.

Addictions are very interesting, the topic is fascinating and there&#039;s so many aspects to it. Just think about it, many of us are addicted to our habits and morning routines. The whole thing of not being able to wake up properly without that shower and that cup of tea in that order ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sam,</p>
<p>I believe it depends on personality if you need to quit an addiction all together or can nipple it so to speak</p>
<p>I know that for my smoking I needed to cut it hard, completely and utterly. It simply took way too much energy for me to argue with myself over and over if it now was time to get that first or 2nd cigarette of the day that I had allowed myself. It took way too much energy and time and struggle to stop myself from telling myself: well, you can get another one, it doesn&#8217;t matter anyway.</p>
<p>So I think, if you&#8217;re really good at keeping promises for yourself, then you can quit partially and at a level that&#8217;s healthy for you. But if you&#8217;re not good at keeping promises for yourself, or at least obey yourself without argument, then it&#8217;s no go and you should quit completely.</p>
<p>I have friends who can manage the one-two smokes a day without any problems what so ever. If I try that, I just slowly start to smoke more and more as I break one promise to myself after another. I&#8217;m not good at keeping them when it&#8217;s only myself it relies on.</p>
<p>Also, I&#8217;m the type who&#8217;ll eat the entire candy-bag once it&#8217;s opened in a very short time. I&#8217;m not good at saving pleasures for later. Other people are the opposite and I think they can easier manage to quit an addiction partially.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a danger with partial quitting. That you in essence fool yourself. &#8220;Sure, I can&#8217;t be addicted when I only play one hour a day, can I?&#8221; Typical argument. Fact is that yes, you can be addicted even if you only play 5 min a day. It all comes down to why you play and how you do it. My ex, who is an alcoholic, didn&#8217;t drink every day, but once in a while. According to himself he weren&#8217;t addicted any longer. Bullshit I say, because he still drank for all the same reasons and had all the same behaviours around it. He was merely fooling himself because he wasn&#8217;t ready to face reality and take responsibility for his own life and actions.</p>
<p>Addictions are very interesting, the topic is fascinating and there&#8217;s so many aspects to it. Just think about it, many of us are addicted to our habits and morning routines. The whole thing of not being able to wake up properly without that shower and that cup of tea in that order <img src='http://www.actionpodcast.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://www.actionpodcast.com/2009/05/addiction-the-first-step-861/comment-page-1/#comment-120</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 19:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Stephanie,

Thanks again for joining us here, and especially for adding your comments on this topic!
It certainly does seem like there is scope for much more exploration of Addiction, and I&#039;ll be aiming to tackle another couple of angles on it over the next few weeks. One of the things that occurred to me today, is that whilst there is often a primary need that the addiction is serving (at least initially), there are likely to be secondary needs that also must be addressed or at least considered, when looking to dissolve an addiction &amp; it&#039;s effects.
Also - you touched on the fact that most of us can relate to some level of addiction, and this is important too. Not all addictions are as &#039;serious&#039; as some of the ones I&#039;ve mentioned in my post above. Many of us can relate to needing that initial cup of coffee to &#039;get going in the morning&#039;, or of having a favourite &#039;comfort&#039; food that we turn to in times of stress, or even surfing the internet daily (where we seem to lose quantities of time to it, or feel disconnected if we can&#039;t keep up-to-date with our favourite news website or forum etc).

Do let me know if there are other areas of it you&#039;d like to see explored too!

With love &amp; curiosity,
Sam :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Stephanie,</p>
<p>Thanks again for joining us here, and especially for adding your comments on this topic!<br />
It certainly does seem like there is scope for much more exploration of Addiction, and I&#8217;ll be aiming to tackle another couple of angles on it over the next few weeks. One of the things that occurred to me today, is that whilst there is often a primary need that the addiction is serving (at least initially), there are likely to be secondary needs that also must be addressed or at least considered, when looking to dissolve an addiction &amp; it&#8217;s effects.<br />
Also &#8211; you touched on the fact that most of us can relate to some level of addiction, and this is important too. Not all addictions are as &#8217;serious&#8217; as some of the ones I&#8217;ve mentioned in my post above. Many of us can relate to needing that initial cup of coffee to &#8216;get going in the morning&#8217;, or of having a favourite &#8216;comfort&#8217; food that we turn to in times of stress, or even surfing the internet daily (where we seem to lose quantities of time to it, or feel disconnected if we can&#8217;t keep up-to-date with our favourite news website or forum etc).</p>
<p>Do let me know if there are other areas of it you&#8217;d like to see explored too!</p>
<p>With love &amp; curiosity,<br />
Sam <img src='http://www.actionpodcast.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 17:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Pia!

I really want to start by acknowledging the tremendous changes you&#039;ve made, and your honesty in sharing your story with us too - thank you! It is inspiring to hear from someone who has moved on successfully!

You raise a really important point about addictions - that at some point in our lives, they have SERVED us in some way. For me, my WoW addiction brought a sense of achievement; for you, your online roleplaying brought a sense of social connection (which helped you rebuild your confidence &amp; find the courage for change).
What happens though, is that even once we&#039;ve moved through the point in our lives where our addiction served us (I left the corporate world I found so unfulfilling; you broke free from your violent marriage), the addictive components of it (chemical, habitual etc) still remain. So we are left with an addiction that is now doing us a DISSERVICE.

There is definitely a lot of opportunity for learning, awareness &amp; understanding that this can offer us!

The pointers you shared with us are a great example of how you identified the underlying need that was being met by your addiction, and built some great and positive sources of that into your life instead! By combining your passion and your social networking into your work, you&#039;ve given yourself a wonderfully supportive foundation to continue building on - and one that motivates you to remain on that path.

They say &#039;all things in moderation&#039;, and this could well be another aspect of addiction worth exploring. Does recovery need to be &#039;all or nothing&#039; through either a cold-turkey approach or a gradual reduction? Or is moderation in the face of addiction possible? More intriguingly, once we fulfill the underlying need positively, can the allure of the addiction disappear entirely?

I really appreciate you joining us and adding so much to this discussion!

With love &amp; curiosity,
Sam :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Pia!</p>
<p>I really want to start by acknowledging the tremendous changes you&#8217;ve made, and your honesty in sharing your story with us too &#8211; thank you! It is inspiring to hear from someone who has moved on successfully!</p>
<p>You raise a really important point about addictions &#8211; that at some point in our lives, they have SERVED us in some way. For me, my WoW addiction brought a sense of achievement; for you, your online roleplaying brought a sense of social connection (which helped you rebuild your confidence &amp; find the courage for change).<br />
What happens though, is that even once we&#8217;ve moved through the point in our lives where our addiction served us (I left the corporate world I found so unfulfilling; you broke free from your violent marriage), the addictive components of it (chemical, habitual etc) still remain. So we are left with an addiction that is now doing us a DISSERVICE.</p>
<p>There is definitely a lot of opportunity for learning, awareness &amp; understanding that this can offer us!</p>
<p>The pointers you shared with us are a great example of how you identified the underlying need that was being met by your addiction, and built some great and positive sources of that into your life instead! By combining your passion and your social networking into your work, you&#8217;ve given yourself a wonderfully supportive foundation to continue building on &#8211; and one that motivates you to remain on that path.</p>
<p>They say &#8216;all things in moderation&#8217;, and this could well be another aspect of addiction worth exploring. Does recovery need to be &#8216;all or nothing&#8217; through either a cold-turkey approach or a gradual reduction? Or is moderation in the face of addiction possible? More intriguingly, once we fulfill the underlying need positively, can the allure of the addiction disappear entirely?</p>
<p>I really appreciate you joining us and adding so much to this discussion!</p>
<p>With love &amp; curiosity,<br />
Sam <img src='http://www.actionpodcast.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Stephanie Butcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephanie Butcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 20:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Pia, Sam&#039;s post was very well written and honest (as you always are Sam).  I would love you to cover addictions in a future podcast as I think most of us can relate in one way or another to some level of addiction. As you said there&#039;s a need to escape from real life where we don&#039;t always get that instant gratification for our hard work, suffering, selflessness or whatever it is we feel we are giving to the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Pia, Sam&#8217;s post was very well written and honest (as you always are Sam).  I would love you to cover addictions in a future podcast as I think most of us can relate in one way or another to some level of addiction. As you said there&#8217;s a need to escape from real life where we don&#8217;t always get that instant gratification for our hard work, suffering, selflessness or whatever it is we feel we are giving to the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Pia &#124; Taunaki</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pia &#124; Taunaki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 14:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post and well written. I can relate having been addicted to an online roleplaying game myself. This one was text based and much more social minded than WoW. One reason I never even tried WoW, it never gave enough impression of social network, real roleplay and all that which I needed for my escapism.

These online networks can be amazingly good at a period in life, but they take a lot as well. I use my gaming to get out of a violent marriage, the success of my character gave me the belief and courage to break free and that I could. Creating friendships online had me visit a bunch of them in the US for 5 weeks, probably the best holiday in my life, I met some very deep friends, which I still have contact with, and one became my coach helping me get control of my life, break my tendency to self-destruction, helped me change behaviours and move forward.

About half a year ago I practically stopped playing, I would log on, wait for my close friends/those fun to RP with to get online, but in general I felt very unfulfilled and dissatisfied. Eventually I just let my subscription run out and haven&#039;t missed it since.

I realized it was the social aspect I was longing for and missing when I took breaks. But leaving and not playing showed me how shallow many of them were. It was a false sense of company to be online with people. I guess I learned it the hard way when people stopped talking to me when I stopped playing. The few true friends I have this way still talk, but the social need wasn&#039;t covered after I stopped.

I built my own RL social circles instead, and the more I go out to networking events, visiting people, working on Taunaki, being in contact due to Taunaki and so on, the less I miss the online world and the friendships there.

I&#039;ve learned a lot from it and while it&#039;s been an escape, it&#039;s also been a good lesson and valuable at the time. It gave me the belief that I could be loved and appreciated, that I have value and all those things.

My advice is:
~ Work with stuff RL that&#039;s your passion. I love my work with Taunaki and it&#039;s very fulfilling. It&#039;s my passion and drive. It makes me happy, makes me feel I accomplish things, it&#039;s a wonderful challenge, huge life lesson and professional lesson as well and so on.
~ Be social. Get out and meet new people. Attend a local networking event where everybody are there to meet new people and create contacts. I do it both for Taunaki and looking for potential partners and investors, but just as much for me to get out and be social.

Combining the two, my passion and networking pretty much gives me the same fulfilment as playing did. My roles are perhaps somewhat the same now as what my characters did in many ways, so that might be why.

I hope this helps. Gaming and escaping can be good, but only in moderation. A short period of life to get a chance to breathe, feel success and then you face the real world again and conquer it.

Good luck, you&#039;ll get there!
Pia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post and well written. I can relate having been addicted to an online roleplaying game myself. This one was text based and much more social minded than WoW. One reason I never even tried WoW, it never gave enough impression of social network, real roleplay and all that which I needed for my escapism.</p>
<p>These online networks can be amazingly good at a period in life, but they take a lot as well. I use my gaming to get out of a violent marriage, the success of my character gave me the belief and courage to break free and that I could. Creating friendships online had me visit a bunch of them in the US for 5 weeks, probably the best holiday in my life, I met some very deep friends, which I still have contact with, and one became my coach helping me get control of my life, break my tendency to self-destruction, helped me change behaviours and move forward.</p>
<p>About half a year ago I practically stopped playing, I would log on, wait for my close friends/those fun to RP with to get online, but in general I felt very unfulfilled and dissatisfied. Eventually I just let my subscription run out and haven&#8217;t missed it since.</p>
<p>I realized it was the social aspect I was longing for and missing when I took breaks. But leaving and not playing showed me how shallow many of them were. It was a false sense of company to be online with people. I guess I learned it the hard way when people stopped talking to me when I stopped playing. The few true friends I have this way still talk, but the social need wasn&#8217;t covered after I stopped.</p>
<p>I built my own RL social circles instead, and the more I go out to networking events, visiting people, working on Taunaki, being in contact due to Taunaki and so on, the less I miss the online world and the friendships there.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve learned a lot from it and while it&#8217;s been an escape, it&#8217;s also been a good lesson and valuable at the time. It gave me the belief that I could be loved and appreciated, that I have value and all those things.</p>
<p>My advice is:<br />
~ Work with stuff RL that&#8217;s your passion. I love my work with Taunaki and it&#8217;s very fulfilling. It&#8217;s my passion and drive. It makes me happy, makes me feel I accomplish things, it&#8217;s a wonderful challenge, huge life lesson and professional lesson as well and so on.<br />
~ Be social. Get out and meet new people. Attend a local networking event where everybody are there to meet new people and create contacts. I do it both for Taunaki and looking for potential partners and investors, but just as much for me to get out and be social.</p>
<p>Combining the two, my passion and networking pretty much gives me the same fulfilment as playing did. My roles are perhaps somewhat the same now as what my characters did in many ways, so that might be why.</p>
<p>I hope this helps. Gaming and escaping can be good, but only in moderation. A short period of life to get a chance to breathe, feel success and then you face the real world again and conquer it.</p>
<p>Good luck, you&#8217;ll get there!<br />
Pia</p>
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